Dennis A. Amith interviews Roger Fan (2002) - Page 2

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Photo: "Better Luck Tomorrow" actors Jason Tobin and Roger Fan at the Sundance Movie Festival.
DENNIS: Did you expect the kind of reaction that "Better Luck Tomorrow" would get from Sundance?
ROGER:
When I grow old, probably one of the fondest memories I will reflect upon is Sundance and the "Better Luck Tomorrow" phenomenon. You have to know that in the beginning, BLT appeared to be just a tiny little indie. The key word being "appeared" and not the MTV Film that you hear of now. This was not a "sexy" film to be on and it was not glamorous. It was by far the most difficult shoot I have ever worked on. But, it was the most fun I have ever had on any film. I truly feel lucky to have been part of "Better Luck Tomorrow".

Going up to Sundance, I felt like we were part of a movement; we were making history. I didn't know what to expect from Sundance or the kind of reaction people would have when they saw the film. We were all nervous but we were all there as a family: 50+ BLT'ers on the mountain! I did not expect that our film would be so well received. I think why so many people gravitated to our film versus many of the "name" films was that they could sense that it was a birth of a new era of cinema from a "new" community. That being Asian Americana with a fresh new director, fresh new actors, a fresh new perspective, a fresh new way of looking at things. I also think it was the first time that the mainstream white community actually saw a film with Asian American characters that were just being regular kids who are flawed, insecure, trying to find their identities, prom, etc. And because our film was just an American film, I think BLT was the first movie these folks have ever seen where they could truly identify with the characters on a personal level and hence, truly embrace and love our film. No kung fu, no accents. Just American kids being kids.

DENNIS: Do you feel that "Better Luck Tomorrow" inspired Indie filmmakers?
ROGER:
I think our film inspired a lot of people because we were probably the most indie film of the competition 16 as well. Many of the 16 films had stars, a great deal of financial backing, and studio support. We had none of those things. We were by far the underdogs. We had no money yet we were able to create a film that looked like a multi-million dollar Hollywood picture. Overall, I think the people at Sundance could really sense the love that we had for each other and the sacrifice it took to make this film. We were a warm and fun group to be around and I think people wanted to take part in that special feeling that can be so easily lost in Hollywood. Heck, Lance Bass from N'Sync was trying to get into our BLT party, had we known he was in line, Parry and I would have carried him in on our shoulders.

DENNIS: What was your reaction about the Roger Ebert situation at Sundance?
ROGER:
At our third of five screenings, Roger Ebert stood up and championed our film. This was in response to a liberal journalist stating that Justin created a film that represented "his people" negatively. My response was "Thank God for that liberal journalist!" Prior to that screening, Justin, myself, and some cast member were sitting at a restaurant killing time. Justin was looking pensive and was quiet just drinking an ice tea and flipping a sugar bag back and forth on his fingers. I asked him what was wrong and he responded, "Roger, we need the sun, moon, earth, and all the planets to align for us tonight. We need something special to happen for our film and I just don't know what we can do." I could not respond. I just looked at him and patted him on the back. You have to know, that prior to our third screening, people loved our film but studios just were not completely convinced on buying it. But our prayers were answered. The journalist asked his question, which sent the crowd into a World Wrestling Entertainment frenzy. There was a true sense of danger and excitement at our Q&A that just shot across town like wild fire. And the fact that Ebert stood up and became our voice of reason, you could not have asked for better PR. From then on, BLT became the movie to see and the movie to part of.

DENNIS: Are there any similarities between you and your BLT character "Daric"?
ROGER:
There are tremendous similarities between me and my character "Daric". I'm not going to spoil the movie for those of you who have not seen it. Let's just say that Daric is controversial. The reason being is my method of acting comes from within. I do not see acting as "assuming" a character and mimicking. I see acting as "what would Roger do if he was a...?" or "what would Roger do if he was put into this situation. I try to bring as much of myself into a part as possible because bottom line, you can only be you. As an actor, I think that's crucial.
Photo: Roger Fan and David Shierdan (Scary Movie) all tied up in "Corky Romano".

You have to be truly comfortable with your own soul and your own skin in order to truly inhabit and bring to life a character that someone has written. OK, I realize I'm getting a little technical here. So yes, the reason why I truly related to my character of Daric is that in many ways, like Daric, I was insecure and searching to be cool in high school and at times, would do anything to get that respect. My therapist would be proud of my last sentence.

DENNIS: I know there have been discussions about "Better Luck Tomorrow" from within the Asian American community. Many in support but there are some out there that feel the movie makes Asian Americans look bad. Does this tick you off?
ROGER:
Does our movie make Asian Americans look bad? Does this tick me off? Hmmm... a very interesting question. No, it does not tick me off. But, I think this demands that we look closer to why certain people might feel this way. My suspicion is that the individuals who are focusing in on this issue that the film makes Asian Americans look bad are perhaps falling into their own trap of the "model minority myth" yet they are not aware of it. I find this alarming because basically what certain Asian American folks are saying is that Asian Americans must be seen in a certain light and that any form of portrayal of them outside of this "expectation" in the media is not correct and should not be supported. I also find this to be ironic because these individuals are actually partially responsible of the continual perpetuation of certain "Asian Stereotypes" of being good, hard-working, society-assimilating, don't rock the boat people; the very stereotypes that they are trying to shed and put behind them. I think this paragraph may incite some controversy. I am not trying to put anyone down or say that my opinion is any better than anyone else's. This is just my opinion. This is from a person who deals with race issues every day because the very nature of his work and whether or not he is employed is determined greatly by his ethnic makeup and the perceptions the mainstream decision-makers have of that ethnicity.

Photo: The "Better Luck Tomorrow" guys take a break. Photo from L-R: Sung Kang, Parry Shen, Justin Lin, Jason Tobin and Roger Fan.
DENNIS: So, in a way it was a blessing for Roger Ebert to support this film. To show that that even for Asian Americans, reality should be portrayed accurately - the good and the bad.
ROGER:
The very reason why Roger Ebert stood up and championed our film is that there is this double standard that people put on films yet they are not aware of it. There are many films out there that are violent, controversial, amoral, etc. Films like "The Godfather". Al Pachino plays an Italian-American war hero who becomes an outright monster, killing people on a whim and ultimately lying to his wife about the true honorable nature of his character.

"The Godfather" wins academy awards. It is a fine film that is considered by almost everyone a masterpiece. If you really look at the film, "The Godfather" makes Caucasians, more specifically Italian Americans look really bad. But, to quote Roger Ebert, "No one would ever tell a bunch of white film makers that they are representing their people negatively. And Asian Americans have the same right to tell the stories they want to tell and play the roles they want to play and they do not have to "represent" their people!" I don't want people to misunderstand Roger Ebert. What he was saying is actually quite virtuous. Basically, why is it that White filmmakers can make films that are happy, sad, funny, moving, or violent and people will take them as just pure entertainment? And then, all of a sudden an Asian American filmmaker comes along and makes a film and it's judged by a completely different set of criteria and standards? Because Justin Lin is Asian American he has to "represent" his people in a manner that will please everyone? The merits of Martin Scorcesse, Steven Spielberg, etc. are not judged upon their representation of their people; they are judged upon whether or not they can make a good movie. Why should the criteria be any different for Justin and other Asian American filmmakers? The sole responsibility of Justin Lin as a filmmaker and as an artist is to make the best damn movie he can possibly make and stay as true to the story that he and his writers created. Justin Lin and other future Asian American filmmakers should be evaluated very simply. Can he or she make a good movie and whether or not you liked it?

DENNIS: Any behind the scenes antics or anything interesting happen during the filming of "Better Luck Tomorrow"?
ROGER:
There is a scene where Jason puts a gun at the front of his underwear. Well, seeming how it was a heavy gun, it kept falling out. So Jason asked if I could use an industrial baby pin and pin the back of his underwear so that his gun could be supported in the front. Anyway, I spent many minutes trying to pinch the back of his underwear, all the while, getting a front row seat view of his ass. For those of you who are curious, Jason Tobin has what appears to be a solid, fine rump that many would find more than suitable.

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